# Banshu Flies Revisited
**URL:** https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471
**Category:** Kebari & Flies
**Created:** [October 17, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471 "2022-10-17T23:49:31Z")
**Posts on this page:** 18
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### Author:  [@Jonathan\_Antunez](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Jonathan_Antunez)
#### Post date: [October 17, 2022, 11:49pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/1 "2022-10-17T23:49:31Z")
I really want to try my hand at tying authentic Banshu Ayu flies but the resin type and gold flake process is a mystery to me. Does anyone know what kind of resin is used and gold flake? Thank you in advance!
@todoroki34, maybe you can help me.
Regards, JA.
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### Author:  [@Vladimir](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Vladimir)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2022, 5:33pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/2 "2022-10-18T17:33:57Z")
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb-Gv1rOafg)
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### Author:  [@Jonathan\_Antunez](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Jonathan_Antunez)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2022, 6:54pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/3 "2022-10-18T18:54:37Z")
Yes. I have seen this. I appreciate it. What I need are product names for the mixed resin and the type of gold leaf.
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### Author:  [@tvdavisid](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/tvdavisid)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/4 "2022-10-18T19:32:57Z")
I miss David Walker. I’m sure you’ve seen his thread on Banshu kebari, but I’ll post it here again, so we can all remember how amazing he was.
> [@Tying Banshū Kebari](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/tying-banshu-kebari/147):
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> Once in a while I find websites or videos of people tying Banshū Kebari, that I think are mostly used for Ayu fishing. Most are much fancier than Tenkara kebari, although a few are quite similar to typical Tenkara kebari. Such as the two in the middle [image] from this website: [http://kougeihin.jp/item/1414/](http://kougeihin.jp/item/1414/) I have often wondered what the tool they use to hold the hook while tying them is called. But I have not yet found a name for these tools. Even when doing a search with this phrase - …
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### Author:  [@CM\_Stewart](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/CM_Stewart)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2022, 10:07pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/5 "2022-10-18T22:07:54Z")
I believe there is only one type of gold leaf. It is just 24k gold pounded extremely thin. I don’t know what type of resin is used.
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### Author:  [@Jonathan\_Antunez](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Jonathan_Antunez)
#### Post date: [October 18, 2022, 11:40pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/6 "2022-10-18T23:40:44Z")
Found this resource. Now to see about some of these materials.
> **[KOGEI JAPAN](https://kogeijapan.com/locale/en_US/banshukebari/)**
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> View all information about Banshu fly-fishing flies. Kogei Japan is a website that introduces traditional Japanese crafts for everyday use. Kogei Japan will help you discover and understand the beauty that traditional Japanese crafts convey.
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### Author:  [@Vladimir](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Vladimir)
#### Post date: [October 19, 2022, 12:53pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/7 "2022-10-19T12:53:13Z")
David is greatly missed.
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### Author:  [@Peder](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Peder)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2022, 2:13am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/8 "2022-10-24T02:13:46Z")
> [@tvdavisid](#):
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> I miss David Walker.
I was just thinking about him a couple of days ago. I miss him too.
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### Author:  [@Kookagee](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Kookagee)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2022, 1:24am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/9 "2022-11-03T01:24:25Z")
@tvdavisid Tom, I’ve been thinking the same thing. David Walker would know the answer or he would be able to find out the info. in a very short time. He was an amazing man that had so much information to share with us. I really wish he was alive.
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### Author:  [@T-stillwater](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/T-stillwater)
#### Post date: [November 3, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/10 "2022-11-03T16:14:31Z")
I also miss David and his contributions very much…Karl.
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### Author:  [@Gressak](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Gressak)
#### Post date: [November 7, 2022, 12:46am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/11 "2022-11-07T00:46:13Z")
Agreed. David Walker was a Power house.
@Jonathan_Antunez
Johnathan. Sorry for the delayed response. You might want to reach out to Misako Ishimura. @CM_Stewart might be able to get you connected. A few years back I went to the Catskill Fly fishing museum and she did a presentation on Kebari. @Peder was there too. I think they were largely flies that @todoroki34 tied, but it was a few years ago, my memory might be inacurate. I know he gifted participants with flies he tied. [https://10colorstenkara.com/t/catskill-fly-fishing-center-and-museum-fishing-show](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/catskill-fly-fishing-center-and-museum-fishing-show)
Anyway. Here is a snapshot I took of what I think are Banshu flies. When we asked details of these flies, they were flies of the wealthy who would fish. The gold is largely a status thing and the bead itself really has no weight, so although it looks like a bead head, it is not weighed, the gold ornamentation is just ornamentation and status. Or at least that is how I remember the explanation.
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### Author:  [@Kookagee](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Kookagee)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2022, 12:45am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/12 "2022-11-15T00:45:51Z")
Thank you for the picture, they are amazing looking.
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### Author:  [@Jonathan\_Antunez](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Jonathan_Antunez)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2023, 11:10pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/13 "2023-01-03T23:10:22Z")
Have to thank Bansho Sideplan on Instagram for the hookup on this link. It’s exhaustive in detail about the construction of the rudimentary simple vise and the tying of these ornate flies. Cheers everyone.
> **[『鮎毛鉤修行その１１：古式ニ依リテ古式毛鉤ヲ巻ク』](https://ameblo.jp/gen-ei-fisherman/entry-12514972718.html)**
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> 先に鮎毛鉤の原型であるハエ毛鉤についてご紹介しましたが、広く流行した商品としての鮎毛鉤の元祖は京都・鴨川のほとり三条川端通にあった「永原屋茂八商店」が文政年…
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### Author:  [@troutrageous1](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/troutrageous1)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2023, 4:20am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/14 "2023-01-04T04:20:39Z")
Wow. Just wow. That step by step is incredible. I don’t think I’d have the patience, but I’m in awe at it… all the way down to the gold leaf.
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### Author:  [@Gressak](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Gressak)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2023, 1:29pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/15 "2023-01-04T13:29:39Z")
Awesome. @Jonathan_Antunez can you talk about your motivation to tie this pattern?
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### Author:  [@Jonathan\_Antunez](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Jonathan_Antunez)
#### Post date: [January 4, 2023, 11:32pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/16 "2023-01-04T23:32:18Z")
Mostly curiousity and also learning old ways of doing things. Overall, its just me being nosey and fascinated with old flies and tying techniques.
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### Author:  [@Gressak](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Gressak)
#### Post date: [January 7, 2023, 11:51pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/17 "2023-01-07T23:51:14Z")
If you tie a handful up and want to do an experiment it might be interesting to put a couple aside sans gold leaf. That red lacquer might make for a super hotspot.
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### Author:  [@Kookagee](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Kookagee)
#### Post date: [January 9, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/banshu-flies-revisited/2471/18 "2023-01-09T23:47:53Z")
Awesome idea Gressak!! This looks amazing.