# Dragontail Small Stream Hybrid Glass Rod

**URL:** https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998
**Category:** Rods
**Created:** [February 11, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998 "2021-02-11T16:15:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/arrowrand/32/5060_2.png) [@arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/arrowrand)
#### Post date: [February 11, 2021, 4:15pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/1 "2021-02-11T16:15:06Z")

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Posted to one of the Tenkara Facebook Groups, coming later this hear at a price TBD.

> **[Introducing the New DRAGONtail Hybrid-Composite tenkara rod: the marriage of...](http://tetontenkara.blogspot.com/2021/02/introducing-new-dragontail-hybrid.html)**
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> As many of you know, I like fishing small streams and creeks. These waters present unique challenges, that larger streams don't provide...

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### Author: ![Gressak](https://10colorstenkara.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/g/e79b87/32.png) [@Gressak](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Gressak)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2021, 1:54am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/2 "2021-03-01T01:54:47Z")

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If I were not so maxed out with rods this rod would be on my list. Seems very interesting and up my alley.

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### Author: ![arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/arrowrand/32/5060_2.png) [@arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/arrowrand)
#### Post date: [March 1, 2021, 12:11pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/3 "2021-03-01T12:11:08Z")

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This rod isn’t the last thing that I NEED, but it’s way down the list.

The last few years of my rod and reel life I spent fishing nothing but cheap Cabela’s CGR fiberglass rods. A fiberglass rod, even a hybrid rod with a few carbon sections from a rod brand that I love is something that I just have to have.

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### Author: ![Scott\_T](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/scott_t/32/3892_2.png) [@Scott\_T](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Scott_T)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2021, 3:28am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/4 "2021-03-02T03:28:46Z")

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Randy,

Those Cabela’s CGR rods punch way above their weight, price-wise. I still use a 6’6" 4 wt for those situations where Tenkara rods just don’t work well at all.

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### Author: ![arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/arrowrand/32/5060_2.png) [@arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/arrowrand)
#### Post date: [March 2, 2021, 12:10pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/5 "2021-03-02T12:10:22Z")

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I’d agree on the CGR’s, I bought the 2wt just for laughs and it was instant love. I went back and bought all but the 7/8wt over the next month or so as they got them back in stock.

I don’t have high end carbon rods because expensive just isn’t my style, but those cheap S glass rods are amazing at $70. Feeling that bend is the only thing I truly miss about rod and reel fishing.

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### Author: ![Epicuretenkara](https://10colorstenkara.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epicuretenkara](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Epicuretenkara)
#### Post date: [March 29, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/6 "2021-03-29T17:42:00Z")

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I mainly fish small streams like in the video. Currently I’m using a Nissin Tenkara Mini 270, but am intrigued by the zoom function of this rod. Does anyone think it would be a good buy or does my Nissin fill a close enough niche?

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### Author: ![Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/kris.franqui/32/4683_2.png) [@Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Kris.Franqui)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2021, 12:06am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/7 "2021-04-09T00:06:45Z")

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I enjoyed reading about the new rod and I think it would be very versatile. I believe the answer depends on the streams you fish…would it be helpful to have a shorter/longer rod at times? Would the increased collapsed length be an issue? One other consideration could be the different rod flex from your pocket mini depending on your casting preferences. That being said, I have several multi position rods and I really like them. They are great for packing or exploring new waters when you’re not sure what you’re going to find or want to carry fewer rods.

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### Author: ![dpnoll](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/dpnoll/32/3684_2.png) [@dpnoll](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/dpnoll)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2021, 4:04pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/8 "2021-04-11T16:04:46Z")

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Ok guys, I need some help. What’s the fascination with fiberglass in rods?

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### Author: ![arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/arrowrand/32/5060_2.png) [@arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/arrowrand)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2021, 6:07pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/9 "2021-04-11T18:07:59Z")

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It’s just a very different experience. I have S and E glass fly rods, and I very much prefer the Cabela’s CGR S glass rods. When your rod tip touches your grip, that’s full flex glass rod fishing.

Casting can be like casting a wet rope, but if the tug is the drug, the tug on on S glass is an overdose.

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### Author: ![Brian\_Miller](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/brian_miller/32/2777_2.png) [@Brian\_Miller](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Brian_Miller)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2021, 6:38pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/10 "2021-04-11T18:38:24Z")

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I already have a 5:5 zoom rod that fishes at 300, 270, and 240 cm. It’s a lightweight beautifully casting rod for tight quarters and quickly adjusts for every small stream situation I encounter. It’s also great fun with 10"-13" fish. But I’m thinking about the Foxfire too and wondering if there are compelling reasons to purchase one given what I have.

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### Author: ![dpnoll](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/dpnoll/32/3684_2.png) [@dpnoll](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/dpnoll)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2021, 8:25pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/11 "2021-04-11T20:25:54Z")

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I have all fixed length rods and will probably stay that way. It seems that on all the reviews I read zoom rods cast differently at each length.

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### Author: ![arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/arrowrand/32/5060_2.png) [@arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/arrowrand)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2021, 1:04am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/12 "2021-04-12T01:04:54Z")

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Really, unless you need the shorter lengths of this rod you should maybe pass.

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### Author: ![arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/arrowrand/32/5060_2.png) [@arrowrand](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/arrowrand)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2021, 1:06am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/13 "2021-04-12T01:06:21Z")

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Zoom rods do cast differently at their various lengths. You notice it less on some rods like the Mizuchi, Hydra or Hellbender. It becomes pretty apparent on the Mutant.

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### Author: ![Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/kris.franqui/32/4683_2.png) [@Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Kris.Franqui)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/14 "2021-04-13T00:52:58Z")

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Personally, I don’t see the casting difference as a surprise or an issue. The penny rating will change slightly, the length/inertia/balance changes, the RFI changes, etc. They provide a versatility that can be very useful based on the streams that are being targeted. Granted, I usually use mine at the longest length, but the ability to shorten them when needed is advantageous and outweighs the differences in casting IMO. Heck, I have over 20 rods already and they all cast different. I enjoy that. It requires me to modify my form and makes me listen to the rod. I learn how subtle changes to hand pressure, force, tempo, stroke length, etc, affects the accuracy and efficiency of the cast. Again, I enjoy that.

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### Author: ![Epicuretenkara](https://10colorstenkara.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epicuretenkara](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Epicuretenkara)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2021, 1:04pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/15 "2021-04-14T13:04:32Z")

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> [@arrowrand](#):
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> Zoom rods do cast differently at their various lengths

I’ve been dreaming over the Tenryu Tf39A. I’ll have to read some reviews to see if that’s the feeling people have for that rod as well. Still waiting on a used one to pop up for sale somewhere

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### Author: ![Epicuretenkara](https://10colorstenkara.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epicuretenkara](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Epicuretenkara)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2021, 1:07pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/16 "2021-04-14T13:07:39Z")

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> [@Kris.Franqui](#):
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> have several multi position rods and I really like them

Which zoom rods do you own that you would recommend. I often time fish small blue line, brushy streams. However I just bought a canoe and would like something that could handle lakes as well. Don’t know if there’s anything out there that bridges all the gaps. I was thinking a TenkaraBum Traveler 39.

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### Author: ![Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/kris.franqui/32/4683_2.png) [@Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Kris.Franqui)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2021, 1:49pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/17 "2021-04-14T13:49:13Z")

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I have the traveler 39, and that is always the first one I recommend. I have three friends that bought it recently. I also have the tenryu 39TA, but that’s an entirely different price point. I’ve also had a couple Tenkara USA zoom rods which I enjoyed when I first started. I don’t have a small stream zoom rod anymore, which is why I was intrigued with the new dragontail rod.

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### Author: ![Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/kris.franqui/32/4683_2.png) [@Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Kris.Franqui)
#### Post date: [April 14, 2021, 1:59pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/18 "2021-04-14T13:59:29Z")

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I love my tenryu 39TA, along with the non-zoom 39. Lots of opinions/reviews on it out there. I let a friend try it out recently and he was spellbound. Incredible fit and finish, even with the controversial color choice. It’s unique to say the least.

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### Author: ![Epicuretenkara](https://10colorstenkara.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epicuretenkara](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Epicuretenkara)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2021, 3:08pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/19 "2021-04-20T15:08:23Z")

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From pricing alone I’m leaning towards the Traveler 39, but I’ve been told it’s not the best for throwing dry flies. Do you find this to be true? As I use CDC and Elk often

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### Author: ![Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/kris.franqui/32/4683_2.png) [@Kris.Franqui](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Kris.Franqui)
#### Post date: [April 20, 2021, 3:47pm UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/dragontail-small-stream-hybrid-glass-rod/1998/20 "2021-04-20T15:47:11Z")

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> [@Epicuretenkara](#):
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> From pricing alone I’m leaning towards the Traveler 39, but I’ve been told it’s not the best for throwing dry flies. Do you find this to be true?

I have no idea why someone would say that. Dries obviously are light and air resistant, but I don’t see that it would be any more challenging with the 39 compared to another comparable rod. I think the flex profile would be great for it and I wouldn’t hesitate at all. Experiment with different casting technique or lines, but that would be true with any rod compared to lobbing weighted nymphs.

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