# Hook-ups and holds: the impact of hook shape and size **URL:** \ **Category:** Kebari & Flies\ **Created:** [June 8, 2022, 1:23am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/hook-ups-and-holds-the-impact-of-hook-shape-and-size/2409 "2022-06-08T01:23:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 13
**Author:** ![Brian\_Miller](https://10colorstenkara.com/user_avatar/10colorstenkara.com/brian_miller/32/2777_2.png) [@Brian\_Miller](https://10colorstenkara.com/u/Brian_Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:07am UTC](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/hook-ups-and-holds-the-impact-of-hook-shape-and-size/2409/13 "2022-10-21T03:07:56Z")
When I first saw the the Moffitt System back around 2009 it looked interesting. However if the fish does not take the hook or hooks voluntarily in(side) its mouth, it is considered “snagging” and is **illegal** in Washington and Oregon. I gave my observations of wide gape hooks for small trout in > [@Hooks Causing Eye Trauma In Small Trout?](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/hooks-causing-eye-trauma-in-small-trout/2448): > > I make a a real effort to minimize fish C&R mortality. I use a net, try not to handle at all, keep their time out of the water to an absolute minimum, photographs in the net - no hero shots, let them regain their stability and strength in the net before dipping the net under to let them swim out… I usually tie tenkara flies with a #12 hook, and occasionally #14. Occasionally I’ll use a #10 for high and/or turbid water for a larger profile. For 3 years I was using #12 hooks with this profile and… > [@Hooks Causing Eye Trauma In Small Trout?](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/hooks-causing-eye-trauma-in-small-trout/2448/8): > > I had an opportunity opportunity to fish some flies tied on the #12 - 051 hooks at a local creek using a full flex DT Mutant. I landed 4 fish but did not get a solid hookup despite a crisp deliberate hookset on 5 or 6 fish that quickly came unbuttoned. The 051s have that profile with a straight horizontal hook to the point from the bend but is slightly offset to the side of the shank. The 062s have the hook that is in line underneath the shank but the point is slightly upturned and just looks … --- _[View the full topic](https://10colorstenkara.com/t/hook-ups-and-holds-the-impact-of-hook-shape-and-size/2409)._