No love for the Kurenai H series?

I’m living in China, so I took advantage of no duties and three day shipping from Ebisu-san. Just for grins, I thought I’d check out the Kurenai H30R. Man, what a wand - Now I REALLY want the HM30R

But the H30 is a pretty fast action rod. If memory serves, it has more backbone than the 10’ 3 weight Greys (that rod is 6500 miles away) I currently use for Euro-nymphing. Giving it test wiggles while comparing it to other tenkara and keiryu-like rods tells me it’s no noodle. I’ll be back in NorCal soon, testing it out in a little creek that’s definitely tight for a 12 footer, to see how it works.

Anyone else ever try the Kurenai H series rods? I can’t find much information on them online.

For that matter, is there any resources on just what the H rating’s mean? I see Suntech offers HM-2H rods, and I can find rods from H-6H on TaoBao. I do know that the higher the H value, the stiffer the rod. I’m just wondering if it’s purely subjective, or if there are objective criteria?

FWIW - I have a 3.6m 4H rod used for competitive Tilapia fishing. The size, shape and stiffness of the first two sections are quite reminiscent of a pool cue. I’ve seen anglers lofting 1 kilo fish out of the water with similar rods. I have no idea what I’ll use it for back in the USA. Heaven knows what a 6H rod would be used for…


I had an HM33R in the past. It was an incredible rod. So light beyond description. I sold it – that was stupid.

The first year I carried the Suntech Kurenai rods I had both the H and the HM series. Once while fishing with a friend who caught a bass of about 12" on the H33 I decided I didn’t like the bend profile in the late stage of landing a nice fish, when the rod is tipped back and the bend is the most extreme. It looked like too much of the bend was concentrated in one section, which I thought would increase breakage over time. Following that I stopped carrying the H series.

I have never asked, but I have assumed the H is Hard, and the HM is Hard Medium. I have a Suntech Kaname 2H and had a Field Master Honryu 2H, which I assumed were Hard Hard, or extra hard, but they were such different rods from the Kurenai or from each other that there was no way to compare them to get a sense of whether they were extra hard (relative to what?). Neither of them had a tight bend profile like the H33 did.

Suntech has a 3H rod, which was designed for fishing the deep pools at the base of waterfalls with heavy split shot. That would suggest that it is a stiff rod, but I have never bought one so I don’t know for sure.