Todoroki kebari dubbing

Todoroki san was extremely generous and sent me some beautiful dubbing. He also sent me an assortment of beautifully tied flies embedded in the material.

He is clearly a talented artist.

Thank you so much Todoroki san!










Wow beautiful flies and dubbing :+1:

Thank you for introduction

I was relieved that the mail arrived safely :wink:

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I was amazed how dark the zenmai was. Did you harvest it yourself?

You noted that you leave it in the sun to dry out. Is the coloration difference just from that process or did you use something to dye the material?

The stuff I collected is very very light…but I just harvested it off the plant within a day or two after picking it.

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I gathered it about 40 years ago
This is a protected thing for anglers and growing big

It is transformed into those wonderful as material enough to go through the era

I do not dye

It is natural itself of “zenmai”


Wow. I am honored.


I have learned “Kebari and Fly” from various anglers until now

That is the “kebari” of Japan that has been treasured in the area

I introduced various “kebari” which remain with the photograph of about 100 years ago
Tradition “kebari” is also in it

Although it may not be the current “tenkara-kebari”, it has been used since a long time ago

“Profession fisherman kebari” even I was taught that tradition

My wish is just to introduce it to everyone

It is the responsibility of my tradition
・・・“Tradition” is told and there is an obligation to convey it


Todoroki san,

If I were to take pictures of each fly you have tied for me and posted each one separately in its own thread. Would you be willing to share details of the pattern, materials, and history?


Yes, I would like to introduce everything I learned if there is hope

That is neither imagination nor speculation but from the past literature, materials and pictures

I hope you all recognize it as a historical fact

I’ve introduced it to date, but these may have caused confusion and misunderstanding

I feel strange whether the actually used “kebari” has not been introduced


Make this happen, Gressak!

Dubbing and I frequently don’t play well together. Sometimes it wraps on like I know what I’m doing. Other times I can’t get it to spin on at all. Changing techniques doesn’t help. One day a technique works, another day it doesn’t. I’m starting to think maybe my success or failure is controlled by mysterious environmental factors. Moon phase, position of stars, wind speed, humidity level, or other unknown. :confused:

Could be an interesting update to this thread.

David - Do you ever use wax? That is the traditional method. Even though many modern threads come pre-waxed, it often isn’t enough to benefit dubbing.

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No, I don’t think I have. Or at least not recently. I have some sewing wax that came in a kit for sewing sails. If I can find it. I’ll give it a try. Maybe that was the unseen trick in fly tying videos, I did not see them wax the thread, perhaps they used pre-waxed thread.

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I like using dubbing wax. I find that it holds the dubbing better for application. I get fuller wraps using wax.

Not many people wax their thread these days, which is why you likely don’t see it too often in videos. Davie McPhail is the most well known fly tier on YouTube that uses wax in the traditional ways. Danville is the company that is most well known for producing waxed thread these days. Although, I don’t find it to be sufficient.

@Jason_Seaward I also find that it’s easier to make a thin dubbing noodle with wax than without. I also feel that flies are more durable.


Wax provides a bit of stickiness. Recent shopping experience provided an insight. :bulb: When buying fresh produce the store provides thin plastic bags to put apples,avocados,spinach, tomatoes, etc. in. After you pull them off the roll. It is difficult to get the top open. Near impossible to open the bag with dry finger tips. Easy to open with dampened finger tips. The water tension providing just enough extra grip to easily open the bag.

In the past a quick finger touch to the tongue did the trick. An action done without conscious thought. Until now when the advice is don’t touch your face while out and about. I found the way to solve that problem. Just find a loose cilantro leaf or similar bit, that has fallen into the bottom of the bin. It is wet because they spray the produce with a mist. Damp fingers, the bag is easy to open.

I thought, Wouldn’t a little bit of moisture on the thread also provide a bit of extra grip on the dubbing from water tension? Gave it a try this afternoon with a couple of different types of dubbing. Seems to work fairly well. Maybe not as good as wax. But more consistent than with dry thread. :wink:

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I keep a bottle of floatant on the desk to put a little bit on my fingers and the tying thread in lieu of wax or moisture which can also help when I tie dubbed-bodied dry flies.


Cool idea Brian. Might be dual purpose of assisting with holding of dubbing while tying and floatation on the river.

It might take me a bit longer to do that. Super busy this week. Irons in multiple fires


I am a bit late to this thread but if it is any help I always tie with a small glass jar holding a very damp sponge. I use wet fingers to twist the dubbing, starting with a little and adding too. For years I have avoided dubbing but I persevered and now have no problems. Apart from dubbing a wet finger is also useful for folding the hackle sides back whilst tying on - but I am sure most of you are aware of that.